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MBFog Forecast-critical issues

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Saverio Nilo - 24.06.2020
Fog forecast using WRF model
output for applications in solar energy
applications
Critical issues
Hourly CNR-IMAA WRF
Ts, Td, T850, W850 forecast
Hourly CNR-IMAA WRF
RH forecast
Hourly FSI
Hourly CNR-IMAA WRF
Ts, Td forecast
Tdepr_thresh
RH_thresh
Test #3 - Tdepr_test
FSI_thresh
Hourly CNR-IMAA WRF
WS forecast
Hourly CNR-IMAA WRF
RH forecast
WSmin_thresh
WSmax_thresh
RHDiff_thresh
Test #4 - WS_test
Test #2 - RH_test
Test #5 - RHDiff_test
Test #1 - FSI_test
&
MBFog forecast flag
Block diagram of MBFog method
REVIEWER 1
1. Added value
2.1 Persistence
2. Quality comparison
REVIEWER 3
6. Threshold calculation
7. Estimation of the impact
of the study for solar energy
applications
Fog forecast using WRF model
output for solar energy applications Critical issues
2.3 Operational (TAF messages)
2.4 Published methods (e.g.
intern. Airports)
3.1 Type of fog
3. Result explanation
4. Specificity of fog
forecast for solar
energy applications
5. Dataset weaknesses
Critical issues
2.2 WRF fog forecast
(visibility or LWC)
3.2 Forecast score vs.
Forecast time
4.1 Quality evaluation in
terms of fog duration during
daytime
5.1 Multi-modal behaviour of
RH histograms
5.2 RH close or under 80% in
presence of fog
REVIEWER 1 Critical issues:
1. Added value of this study with respect to published
work not established
2. Quality comparison of the forecast method with:
• Persistence forecast
• WRF fog forecast (visibility or LWC forecast)
• Operational fog forecast (TAF messages issued
from aeronautical authorities)
• Published fog forecast methods (e.g. over
international airport like Paris-CdG, New York or
Casablanca)
3. Result explanation (i.e. POD (0.52-0.71) and FAR
(0.18-0.46) variability for the different studied airports)
with respect to:
• Type of fog (e.g. with the climatological
classification of Tardif et al.)
• Relation between the forecast score and the forecast
time (are the scores the same for the 6h-30h
forecast time?)
4. Highlight the specificity of fog forecast for solar
energy applications
• Duration of fog events during day time is a crucial
parameter to forecast for energy application
• Evaluation of the quality of the proposed method in
terms of fog duration during daytime
5. Dataset weaknesses
• Multi-modal behaviour of the relative humidity
measurements during fog events
• Fog events observed with relative humidities close
or under 80%
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